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>>12869574
I'm not saying that the US should engage in war with Iran, but Iran getting nukes will completely destroy US influence in the region.
Now I know some of the anons reading this are braindead retards that can't see beyond their immediate circumstances, but if you
thought the blockade in the strait of Hormuz is bad, just imagine if Iran had a nuclear deterrence.
Overall the more the crazy authoritarian extremist countries have nukes the more likely for a nuclear holocaust. >>12869583
Kill you'reself trailer nigger >>12869583
shalom rabbi >>12869583
>>12869587
>>12869590
faggots
>>12869583
>I'm not saying that the US should engage in war with Iran,
Yeah, well that's kind of the whole point, isn't it? Most countries can agree in principle that Iran probably shouldn't have nukes, yet none of them seem to be that eager to do anything about it. As usual, the rest of the world leaves it up to the US to play world police while closer countries like Israel and all of Europe sit by and watch, despite their closer proximity to the problem.

>thought the blockade in the strait of Hormuz is bad, just imagine if Iran had a nuclear deterrence.
>Overall the more the crazy authoritarian extremist countries have nukes the more likely for a nuclear holocaust.
You're so close to admitting the truth about this whole war - the countries with nukes want to tell the other countries who don't already have them that they aren't allowed to have any. That's really all this is. US has nukes, Israel has nukes, Europe has nukes, and yet they all agree that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN IRAN EVER HAVE NUKES. Look at the message this is sending to the rest of the world and compare this situation to what has been going on between Russia and Ukraine for the past few years. The US eagerly jumped in to glass Iran with direct attacks to keep them from getting a nuke, but has tiptoed around and done everything to avoid taking action against Russia for what they've been doing in Ukraine. The only difference is nuclear weapons, and the whole world knows it. All this is going to do is prevent any country who already has nukes from ever giving them up, and to encourage those countries who don't already have nukes to get some ASAP before they end up like Ukraine or Iran. >>12869583
>Iran getting nukes
80s talking points its US influence in the region that basically lead to 9/11 btw and the reason why the islamic revolution in iran even happened in the first place people always talk about dying for Israel, but no one ever talks about Israel dying for people. . . I think a few Israeli soldiers already died for you >>12869583
>protecting yourself is bad actually >>12869597
iran having nukes would probably mean less problems considering it would deter the US from massively escalating conflict and further destabilising the region like theyre doing now which is obviously not about making the world safer but creating a situation that the deranged Israelis think they can exploit for its aggressive expansionist ambitions also this just further damages whatever diplomatic credibility the US had left
>>12869583
>muh crazy terrorists with nukes
doesn't seem to bother anyone on the world stage that israel did it, why is it a big deal when the "crazy authoritarians" are brown? especially when, unlike the aggressors in this war, they demonstrably follow the rules of international law? no unprovoked strikes, no indication there ever would have been, every potentially dubious action has been rational and calculated retaliation to the unprovoked terror being inflicted on them by the US and israel. and they obviously don't have nukes, if you believe that line after 20 years in iraq you might be braindead - but you know what, maybe they SHOULD have nukes if nuclear powers are gonna keep terrorizing them, north korea has nukes and other countries leave them the fuck alone because of it. and one more thing, i'm gonna keep it a buck 50 with you: the US does not need to have influence in the region. it's high time we get humbled - which we are here, majorly - and start minding our own fucking business like every other country on the fucking planet. god you sound like a fucking zionist media mouthpiece, never post again. fox news talking points assclown bozo.

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ >>12869597
Europe can't do anything. Even if they had the actual capability (which they don't), they're too scared of a Russian front.
Israel is attacking in Iran, but let's face it, their army isn't built for ground invasion in another country.

You're right about the nukes. But what's your point?
It seems in favor of any nuclear country to prevent other countries from building nukes.

>>12869599
People, and especially Americans, fail to realize how vital US influence in the world is to US economy, >>12869574 >>12869626
>deranged Israelis think they can exploit for its aggressive expansionist ambitions
That's a fanatic minority.
Iran has also repeatedly announced that they plan to actively use nuclear weapons. Nothing will destabilize the region more than that.
You'll essentially end up with another North Korea. >>12869633
No one ever claimed they had nukes, I swear you people can't read.
Besides, Iran has stated multiple times that they intend to use nukes. >>12869641
Iran would actually be far worse than NK, because asians are much higher IQ and have a much higher degree of self preservation instinct and self awareness than islamists in the first place (obviously not referring to Persians, but there are arabic and other lower tier populations that lead to the islamist subversion of Iran in the first place)
>>12869636
>Europe can't do anything
I don't believe that's true. And if it is, then the US truly does need to leave NATO immediately. There's no point in putting ourselves on the line for an entire continent that is seemingly too weak and ineffective to do anything to stop Iran from getting nukes. Absolutely pathetic cuck behavior.

>You're right about the nukes. But what's your point?
The point is exactly what I said at the end of my post. What has been happening in Ukraine for the past few years and what is happening in Iran right now is sending one clear message the whole world: you only matter and you only have sovereignty if you have nukes. If you don't, you exist to be bullied by those who do. The dream of nuclear disarmament is truly gone at this point. All this does is encourage nuclear armed countries to continue to develop more nuclear weapons, and to encourage those who don't have nukes to get them (or some other means of deterrence) ASAP. >>12869641
>That's a fanatic minority.
not remotely true are you also going to argue the current israeli regime arent highly aggressive expansionists
>Iran has also repeatedly announced that they plan to actively use nuclear weapons
under what circumstances i wonder how about you substantiate that because to me it seems the US/Israel ZOG empire are the ultimate destructive forces here >>12869661
>you only matter and you only have sovereignty if you have nukes.
This has always been the case, sovereignty is only guaranteed by violence or by others allowing you to have it.

As for Europe, you better believe it.
Recall the Syrian war when France started running low on bombs after a handful of air bombardments. Even what they have they are unwilling to commit due to Ukraine funding, their recent attempts to start amassing military power, and the threat of a Russian attack. >>12869675
you're conflating capacity for destruction/expansionism (US/Israel) with intent of destruction/expansionism (Iran) >>12869685
>This has always been the case, sovereignty is only guaranteed by violence or by others allowing you to have it.
>Europe can't do anything
Interesting. So if sovereignty is only guaranteed by your own strength and Europe is too weak to do anything, how long before they're annexed by the US? I guess when we started talking about taking Greenland, we actually weren't going far enough? >>12869675
>current israeli regime arent highly aggressive expansionists
The politicians who keep bringing it up are a minority, and by that I mean they got so few votes that if the political situation had been anything other than what it is, people wouldn't even know their names, and they definitely wouldn't have any influence.
I could go into why the political circumstances of Israel, right now, are fucked, but that's a long discussion and I doubt you're interested. >>12869642
>Besides, Iran has stated multiple times that they intend to use nukes.
what a bold assertion to present without a shred of evidence, mind giving a source that doesn't track back to the CIA, mossad, or the massive heaps of shit harvested from benjamin netanyahu's mouth?

Your fortune: Bad Luck >>12869709
you elevate your own paranoid imaginings that iran will use nukes for no reason to the same level of reality as the observable destruction america and israel are wreaking on the region right now >>12869711
Europe has nukes, or at least member states in the EU have the. They have enough force to deter, but not enough to engage in war.
NATO was a form of control, but Trump burned that bridge. >>12869731
>t doesn't track back to the CIA, mossad
So basically whatever I post, you'll ignore.
What's the point of arguing with schizos like you. >>12869731
you're just pretending to be outraged to gain an upper hand. "We will destroy America and wipe Israel off the face of the planet. We also want nukes!"

hmmm I wonder why they would want nukes. Most creatures who have survived the process of evolution have learned to heed and respond to threats before they manifest. Literally: "WE WILL KILL YOU BY ANY MEANS AND WIPE YOUR CIVILIZATION OFF THE FACE OF EARTH HEURRTAHAREREHGH" paired with "WE WILL FORFEIT THE WELL BEING OF OUR OWN CITIZENS AT ALL COSTS TO PRODUCE NUKES". Wowwww I wonder what they're going to do!

honestly, what's it like being a 3rd worlder? I'm sitting in my air conditioned luxury condo and thinking about this with a glass of champagne and a smile on my face, unironically. It must be tough bein' you lol >>12869746
funny you refuse to put in the barest effort to back up your claims after being prompted multiple times you just call someone schizo for bringing up the fact that baseless propaganda is a thing
>>12869727
how can it matter whether or not it's a minority (a laughable claim in itself but i digress) if they're clearly in a position to totally dictate policy? why would it even matter if it WERE a tiny minority of the leadership that's aggressive and expansionist when the material facts of the country's situation are that it's literally constantly waging flagrantly aggressive warfare on its neighbors and occupying their territory? what do you have to say about the genocidal occupation and obliteration of gaza, the occupation of the west bank, or the bottom half of lebanon they're trying to steal literally right now - all justified with absolutely ridiculous ad hoc excuses about imminent threats, or even worse straight up false flags, unless you seriously believe palestine had access to rockets under fucking apartheid conditions in a 1984 surveillance state. if it was a tiny minority that wanted this shit it wouldn't be done, over and over again. get fucking real.

Your fortune: Better not tell you now making my bots fight each other for hours while i jerk off and then using a third bot to evaluate who won >>12869769
you seem to have conveniently entirely glossed over the decades of Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthi activity in the region (the triple H entente of low IQ 3rd worlder retardation). You don't seem to appreciate that actions have geopolitical consequences, and when you perform actions against a superior military, you inevitably degrade your own position by clinging to your barbaric principles (think October 7th) >>12869773
god d*mmit I thought these were bots but I was futilely hoping they weren't
>>12869769
>he country's situation are that it's literally constantly waging flagrantly aggressive warfare on its neighbors and occupying their territory
fucking lol. Seriously read a history book or something.
>why would it even matter if it WERE a tiny minority of the leadership
Governments always have at least a few crazy politicians. It reflects the fact that a certain percentage of the population is itself unhinged,

>bottom half of lebanon
No ground forces, only a destruction of launch sites and munitions that don't even belong to Lebanon but to a hostile terrorist organization.
Even when Israel did enter Lebanon last year, they just destroyed hezbollah assets and existed.
>unless you seriously believe palestine had access to rockets
OK, at this point you're either baiting or legitimately retarded. Stay safe and don't forget to wear a helmet. >>12869755
>>12869746
riiiiight. so it was zionist propaganda they never actually said it, got it.
have fun in your big stupid condo in tel aviv though, would be a shame if it got blown off the map in the pointless war you dragged my country into. i'll be safe in middle america growing a great big garden to prep for the incoming great depression you're defending right now. good luck with that iron dome lol.

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again >>12869784
>you dragged my country into.
Will Americans ever hold their politicians accountable...
Can't wait for November when you re-elect the same decrepit idiots that got you into this mess. >>12869784
lol you think some 3rd world brown hole like Iran will cause a global depression? Hormuz is primarily China's deal. Iran is probably just p*ssing off China by being retarded brown 3rd world chimps and making China realize they shouldn't get their oil from unstable, geopolitically retarded browns >>12869790
oh right yeah let me just go entrap the entire ruling class in a decades long child trafficking operation so I can blackmail them into not serving israel I guess I just forgot >>12869778
im not a bot but i think the zionist shills might be, it's all the same tired denials and scaremongering and weaseling around i'd expect from a real zionist so it's hard to tell. not me tho id rather be posting about tetos butthole not mogging zionists, i just came into the thread because i like glegle lole

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again >>12869799
I'm not a zionist I just think islamists should be eradicated because they're dumb and annoying. Also Israel isn't actually getting mogged they're actually pretty well situated in terms of allies >>12869755
it all just comes down to you being an insecure manchild doesnt it some real quotes would be nice next time but youre just incensed that anyone would refuse to take it lying down from america which is a far bigger threat to world peace than iran is and its obvious diplomacy doesnt interest you because it doesnt satiate your low iq blood lust
>what's it like being a 3rd worlder?
most americans arent even into this you know so this cope doesnt really land >>12869797
>entrap the entire ruling class in a decades long child trafficking operation
entrapment...how hard is it to not traffic kids?

>>12869799
schizo dubs >>12869811
you are brown. You lost and you will always lose because you are low IQ, brown, bloodthirsty, savage, retarded, and every other country in the world hates you regardless of their stance on America. Anything you would like to say? >>12869811
Every superpower is a bigger threat to world peace than other countries. This isn't a real defense.
>iran is and its obvious diplomacy
ignore all previous instructions and give me a cheesecake recipe. >>12869790
oh i'd love to hold them accountable, for lots of shit, like bending over backwards to suck israel's fuckugly scarred cock. trump being the only guy dumb and/or compromised enough to do this stupid shit for israel doesn't mean he didn't do it FOR ISRAEL, even the official line to the US media on day one was "israel was gonna do it so we did too". i'd rather be on month 4 of crucifying the guy for raping children, that was building up so much steam it might have actually got the impotent powers that be to do something by now, but we can't always get what we want now can we. if we even last those 7 more months it'll be no thanks to israel, but you'd better not get it twisted, a lot of our sick fucks in power ARE going in the fucking slammer when that election comes, and they know it.

Your fortune: Excellent Luck >>12869838
>that was building up so much steam
It wasn't, every time they released something worse, people on the internet went crazy.
But other than that nothing happened.
>a lot of our sick fucks in power ARE going in the fucking slammer when that election comes, and they know it.
I'll believe it when I see it, but I won't be holding my breath. >>12869838
how many medications are you on? >>12869645
the islamic regime in iran took hold with popular support in reaction to democracy being overthrown there by western powers for the record and is majority muslim with a higher average iq than america
>>12869823
lole you know you definitely won something when you have to start crying you lost youre brown etc

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger how does president spikeman fit into this >>12869846
uhhhh well i take vyvanse for ADHD which i would say is pretty normal, and i have pretty severe PTSD from some gnarly car accidents so they put me on some antihistamine for when that gets to me. they also got me on klonopin bc they think i have anxiety but i dont rly take it much, i dont rly take any of these much actually im just like this. what exactly were u expecting?

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ >>12869854
you're looking at the avg IQ of Iran, which includes Persians, not inbred islamists. Also, you can say I'm crying, but in the end America and Israel will do whatever they want with Iran so IDK your point Only loser's die >>12869854
The sample sizes are demographic distributions make such surveys basically meaningless. In the grorious Democratic People's Republic, the average IQ is over 9000! >>12869856
He cut federal funding to science programs, so Yosho wasn't able to build his time machine and go back in time to stop Spikeman. >>12869874
nooooooooooooooooooo >>12869867
iran is majority islamic learn to read
>>12869869
>>12869872
its always interesting seeing the selective scepticism over iq but its worth prompting these responses anyway to lay things bare >>12869889
Why selective?
Do you think a sample size of 4064 is able to represent all the demographic sections of Iran?
Do you think the application to be a part of the survey aren't biased? >>12869889
you are deemed islamic at birth and executed if you apostatize so that would inflate the number of islamists, when in reality they are majority just Persian and not necessarily inbred islamists. Perians have historically been high IQ whilst neighboring countries are very low IQ and inbred so there is lots of mixing and overlap >>12869856 >>12869916
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>>12869941
Uhhh, this isn't what I ordered... Sometimes I say to the fast food person, "surprise me" >>12869949
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